Washing Away With Beauty

In this episode, we pay homage to classic Disney Princess movies, like Cinderella, Snow White, and Sleeping Beauty. The classic tails where the princesses had a little less agency and got a lot more help. Though I think in our tale the princess does a pretty good job helping herself out…

Links:

Snow White on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_White_and_the_Seven_Dwarfs_(1937_film)

Cinderella  on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinderella_(1950_film)

Time Codes

Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 05:09

Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 11:09

Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 17:57

Start of show: 26:40

Improv Game - 2-Word Typewriter: 29:10

Improv Game - Rashomon: 33:06

Improv Game - Superheroes: 43:30

Improv Game - Blind Line: 52:24

Improv Game - Cutting Room: 1:02:27

End of show, into announcements: 1:18:41

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Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)

Avish Parashar: segment one.

Avish Parashar: Alright, so right now we are going to spend about five minutes discussing the tropes cliches and commonalities of the classic Disney princess genre I have my timer on my phone it's a my duck timer still I haven't changed it yet so five minutes and begin.

Michael Worth: Well there's a big debate about which is the main character is a legit princess.

Avish Parashar: that's true.

Michael Worth: You kind of have to have that so obviously is royalty involved, now the.

Michael Worth: one or more parents are always somehow involved in the story like in terms of she's not like an orphan or anything like that i'm trying to think of any Disney princess me where she's an orphan.

Avish Parashar: I should always an orphan.

Avish Parashar: mother's always that right, the mother is always dead right because you got it for the stem the evil stepmother.

Michael Worth: Sometimes yeah yeah sometimes a like, but if you look at a Sleeping Beauty it's this Melissa sent that's the evil one the parents are there and same with tangled both parents are there, but you know the Princess is missing or the practices asleep and stuff so.

Avish Parashar: Only the Princess ends up on our own, like the parents never actually.

Avish Parashar: In the classic ones, the Princess the parents just kind of like disappear.

Michael Worth: Oh yeah and they're not important, you know i'm just saying.

Avish Parashar: yeah they I really horrible parents, they let an evil which kind of you know, have their way, and they leave the.

Avish Parashar: girl or the Princess on our own so.

Michael Worth: That so that ties in with what it is what the print is always does the Princess always arouses the wrath or the enmity have a power of villain in a very personal way it's not just like.

Michael Worth: yeah godzilla swatting rattus like the Princess irritate somebody in a very personal.

Avish Parashar: yeah so there's like an evil either queen or which.

Avish Parashar: And you, and especially we're going real classic the the inciting incident that occurs, the wrath is stupid or innocent like you know it's not that all you know accidentally killed your other kid it's like no it's like Oh, it was prettier than me or.

Avish Parashar: Or you weren't a.

Michael Worth: Party, you were born.

Avish Parashar: you're born.

Michael Worth: Right look at Cinderella right isn't it like yeah you're the blood air and my daughters aren't.

Avish Parashar: Therefore, exactly, so the meat like.

Avish Parashar: The super Teddy the heroines the princess's um while they have very in these movies every like sort of passive they're not like you know strong with hd but at the same time they're also like innocent they don't really do anything wrong they're sweet there Nice.

Michael Worth: And the pure of heart pure spirit.

Avish Parashar: yeah, which is a big criticism and for like modern era right is like do the Princesses we're just kind of they're like yeah the sweet nice quiet women but that's kind of the classic Disney that we are paying.

Michael Worth: You right, you know when we compare it to like rapunzel and tangled or the Princess and the frog they're very kind of proactive, which is fine, both are good.

Avish Parashar: At Disney moved into the 21st century, but back when these movies were coming out in like the 50s or 40s or whatever.

Avish Parashar: Right right yeah yeah so.

Michael Worth: Now that means also there is going to be a handsome Prince.

Avish Parashar: yep there's always a Prince, and I mean we don't have to follow this.

Avish Parashar: But it's usually the Prince who ends up defeating the evil yes.

Avish Parashar: Unless it.

Avish Parashar: has always rescued right she's not the rescuer she gets rescued.

Michael Worth: Right right unless it's no way to which is all the Princesses shopping kisser those are the days set the bar low.

Michael Worth: that's right.

Avish Parashar: But the Queen they kill the Queen that Oh, the dwarves kill the Queen.

Michael Worth: The dwarves.

Avish Parashar: I chase.

Michael Worth: mysterious death yeah.

Michael Worth: sucks you're thinking, if you think of a good fight you're thinking of CP beauty.

Michael Worth: yeah which is my.

Michael Worth: dragon freaking great fight man.

Michael Worth: i'm doing a match to that.

Avish Parashar: But along those lines and there's in addition to apprentice the sidekicks i'm often fairy or animal um yeah.

Avish Parashar: yeah and it's never just like a strike is never just like I mean not to be offensive, you know but it's not just like a quote unquote normal.

Avish Parashar: You know, like they had these like goofy door right or or the blue fairy and the various fairies and the animals that Cinderella was like friends with her fairy godmother.

Michael Worth: yeah or like Jacques and what's his face is Cinderella you know kind of thing.

Avish Parashar: The the MICE you know yeah there's like animals oh.

Michael Worth: Well that's the door i'm not trying to say like dwarves aren't normal right but it's like in did Disney world in the 40s it's like oh no it can't just be like.

Avish Parashar: A female friend it's got to be like something outside like the norm at that time.

Michael Worth: Oh yeah yeah no it's totally right um so let me think we're not gonna worry about the the setting, is it the Princess always gets into some sort of trouble, but that's really general what does it mean to be in trouble, she is an.

Avish Parashar: actress.

Michael Worth: yeah go for it.

Avish Parashar: she's always have some situation where she needs to be rescued right like she's yeah you got to eat the poison apple or falls.

Avish Parashar: into the sea.

Avish Parashar: yeah capper.

Michael Worth: yeah exactly so so let's let's say this there's a very real element of danger throughout this entire movie at the Princess of her life is very much.

Michael Worth: in danger and it's constantly being pushed and orchestrated by the evil female villain and and that's The other thing is it's a female villain It is like.

Avish Parashar: Oh yeah.

Avish Parashar: Fight you know.

Avish Parashar: Worker female villain um yeah I guess it and often has some kind of relation right like Melissa was like part of that community and obviously the stepmother or the answer the other step mother, I guess Cinderella was also stepmother right.

Michael Worth: Yes, it was wicked stepmother yep.

Michael Worth: yeah exactly and i'm actually it was funny it's like there's there's not that much to this at a high level of troops here's.

Avish Parashar: The army, these are like 88 minute movies, with songs.

Avish Parashar: And there for like five year olds so yeah it's not very complicated story.

Michael Worth: Alright, so maybe the devils in the details, I guess, so let's.

Avish Parashar: get to our first 10 minute long episode.

Michael Worth: Oh, my God, a little bit like and and phil.

Avish Parashar: Alright, so that's our yeah we say that this could be like two hours long.

Avish Parashar: Alright, so that is the end, I think we have said, I didn't get the basic.

Avish Parashar: tropes days and more may come out in our outline.

Avish Parashar: So that's end of that session so This brings us to.

Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)

Avish Parashar: segment two.

Avish Parashar: All right now we're going to spend about five minutes hashing out a high level outline.

Avish Parashar: We use a four X structure so we're gonna kind of talk about what happens in each of the X.

Avish Parashar: And this is what our base is going to be well roughly follow it, but it's improv comedy so we may end up skipping parts are varying completely off of it because that's the nature, but this gives us kind of some guidelines and starting points so.

Avish Parashar: yeah let's set a five minute timer and okay.

Michael Worth: whew to did.

Avish Parashar: There you go now there's a Disney princess we should do.

Avish Parashar: We do we Louis.

Michael Worth: Oh yeah that's the Holy Trinity.

Avish Parashar: Alright, so a prologue or trailer.

Avish Parashar: prologue.

Michael Worth: All right, for it, and I know why because i'm actually going to i'm going to say this out loud, so I get committed to it when we do the prologue i'm going to actually write some music hundred Allah kind of beating the beast.

Oh.

Michael Worth: yeah yeah i'll fix it in post.

Avish Parashar: Right, so we always start with either a prologue or a trailer so we have cited Mike unilaterally decided that we're going to it prologue today.

Michael Worth: that's right pieces like four miles ways we can come over and kick my ass so yeah.

Right.

Michael Worth: Alright, so act one um.

Avish Parashar: So what happens in act one we're not doing games that just in act one, we have to meet the Princess we meet the villain.

Michael Worth: mm hmm we meet usually the Princess his family in a very quick and rushed way there again not essential but it just provides the contest we're also given the context of what the Princess his life was like before the middle interferes of the villain.

Avish Parashar: So ordinary world type stuff and if you're the very positive and sweet and everyone loves or it's a.

Avish Parashar: Happy go lucky.

Michael Worth: Now, when the evil person comes in the inciting incident in the is basically her actively then slicing off the ordinary world and casting the prints into some bad state the cross the threshold, so the end of that one is the Princess is now.

Michael Worth: covered in ashes, the Princess has been you know kicked out of the castle yeah whatever.

Avish Parashar: yeah the villain starts the process curse your.

Avish Parashar: threatens arrived yeah the villain.

Avish Parashar: Does their thing.

Avish Parashar: Which brings us then to act.

Michael Worth: To right now here's the weird thing, this is the other Disney princess thing which I don't understand.

Michael Worth: like at this point in time, somehow the evil villain keeps the Princess around I don't know why, like you would think she would run out of town or something, but now the prison's always still being.

well.

Avish Parashar: I mean in Cinderella is a little more human story so it's like well as my step daughter I can't kill her.

Avish Parashar: yeah so but in Cinderella I mean in snow white is Sleeping Beauty.

Avish Parashar: she's in hiding basically right like snow white is hiding.

Avish Parashar: snow Sleeping Beauty the fairies are hiding her away.

Michael Worth: Well yeah that actually happens little earlier instability, but you're right originally that the wicked Queen and snow white is making snow white do all these menial Labor stuff and then.

Michael Worth: She decides to kill snow white when the mirror finance us know what's more beautiful than her so you write an act to.

Avish Parashar: Add to yours you'll see the villain very much I think during act to you see the Princess in her new life like with the dorms are.

Michael Worth: yeah.

Avish Parashar: Maybe there are some obstacles or challenges but we're just kind of more or less discovering the new LIFE you meet the new sidekicks right the psychics are never before it's like you meet the sidekicks in Act two.

Michael Worth: yeah that's true that's that's a good way of putting it so you don't see that one or not to oftentimes years can pass right.

Avish Parashar: yeah.

Michael Worth: years, so the an APP to the Princess is has fled and a new life.

Avish Parashar: Though, but a lot of times, we made a lot of times like it could be like in some in in Sleeping Beauty she was with the fairies so you just jump ahead is already got the life and you see it.

Avish Parashar: In snow white you kind of see her.

Avish Parashar: stumbling upon or new life like.

Avish Parashar: Right Pfizer house and then she meets the dwarves and.

Michael Worth: Right right.

Avish Parashar: So we can go either route with that so essentially that's all that really happens, but then something happens, I think, at the end of Act two where the villain.

Avish Parashar: of your life is that the Princess is alive.

Michael Worth: yeah, and this is at the end of Act two is yet where the villain recognize that the Princess is alive and a were oftentimes introduced to the Prince by this point in time, because the Prince is going to be showing up an act for but he's usually shown up as like.

Avish Parashar: dude.

Michael Worth: Just introduction yeah yeah like he's he's not actively he becomes the act of searching for the Princess an F3 but an act to the the wicked witch or the wicked queen realizes the location, the Princess begins to set up the.

Michael Worth: murder.

Avish Parashar: yeah.

Avish Parashar: All right, after an acting three, is where the villain usually like hatch a plan to get the.

Avish Parashar: Get the Princess maybe investigate like I heard a rumor there's you know someone who sings beautifully let's go investigate slash let me go and.

Avish Parashar: actually go killer myself.

Michael Worth: yeah now now for the purposes of our thing she's not going to try and catch the Princess in and prisoner she's going to try and kill the Princess because we want the Princess to actually be dead or in like look close to death, at the end of act three.

Avish Parashar: Like here's darkest hour yeah.

Michael Worth: So, remember, she was um.

Avish Parashar: She could be like trapped and locked in a tower and it's going to be fed to the dragon tomorrow or something like just.

Avish Parashar: Oh yeah maybe like darkest hour like some impending doom or danger yeah.

Michael Worth: Now.

Michael Worth: And that leads us to act for an APP for it's kind of cool because that for can be where the Prince aided by the friends.

Michael Worth: finds a way to unlock the curse defeats the witch in the final fight and then he the prints are happily married afterwards.

Avish Parashar: So yeah the basically like yeah again it's it's typical Disney were like the Princess of the main character as Internet for she's just a damsel in distress, the Prince comes with help yep.

Avish Parashar: And then kills you know, and we can obviously modernize a little bit like I think just the way we do our storytelling, I think, in general, the Princess will probably have more of a role.

Michael Worth: She will she'll be yeah but she'll be yeah exactly but.

Michael Worth: will do will do a yes and could both the Prince will be an agency and then, but the Princess will step up an act for and like stand up to kind of hold a pencil did in.

Michael Worth: tango or she was like stands up to whoever it was not very slow, whatever it is, but the big thing is this the friends of the girl, a company the prints to the final.

yeah.

Avish Parashar: And the Prince they work together yeah.

Avish Parashar: And i'm seeing him Indians.

Avish Parashar: defeating and back in the day it was always.

Avish Parashar: You killed a villain like it wasn't like oh let's just arrested.

Michael Worth: Oh yeah we're getting we're doing brothers Grimm Hans Christian Andersen here look there there's death.

Avish Parashar: All right, well, our time went off, I think we got our outline, we have a prologue and for X so and that was our timer so This brings us to.